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Christopher Mabata
Dominion Tenebrarum Reverberation Project
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Posted - 2014.08.16 21:29:00 -
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Can we all agree to not call dampeners Dumpers again? Thank you Is it bad if your friend says "that was a Metaphor" and you say "Meta 4? Get Tech II or faction" ?I love the sound of silent explosions in Space.-á |
Christopher Mabata
Dominion Tenebrarum Reverberation Project
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Posted - 2014.08.18 16:06:00 -
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David Koen wrote:Zhilia Mann wrote:David Koen wrote:Vexor has 3800 base hp, One ogre 2 has 1775 HP, 5 ogres 8880 HP, you need to do awesome amount of damage to kill all drones, so it is not a solution to kill all drones. Changing Vexor bandwith to 50mb and drone bay to 75 is the solution. Base HP? Why are we even talking about that? Throw in resists and maybe you'd have an argument -- except that then the drones would appear ludicrously soft compared to the ship fielding them and the point would be moot. Ishtar can carry 15 havy drones with total of 26675 HP which is much more than total Ishar hp, yes drones have resists too.
My Ishtar gets over 67,000EHP SHIELD Fit, so please go back and do your research Is it bad if your friend says "that was a Metaphor" and you say "Meta 4? Get Tech II or faction" ?I love the sound of silent explosions in Space.-á |
Christopher Mabata
Dominion Tenebrarum Reverberation Project
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Posted - 2014.08.18 16:08:00 -
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David Koen wrote:Bronson Hughes wrote:
4. Gallente and Caldari ships use the same turret system (Hybrids), but their bonuses are geared towards blasters (Gallente) or railguns (Caldari). Gallente gunships need to be fast because blasters have such miniscule ranges; slow blaster boats can't really kill anything unless they landed right on top of it. You will notice that the Gallente gunships are generally the faster hulls, while the droneboats are the slower hulls. Even with as fast as they are now, Gallente blaster boats extremely vulnerable to being kited, hence the shift to rails.
Caldari ships can afford to be slow because all of their primary weapons have good range.
I think that Gallente doesn't need fast ships, because all gallente ships have a lot of drones even blaster fitted like Thorax or Megathron. Drones can attack at any range with no problems. Caldari cannot afford having slow ships because this is only one faction having less drones than others. Even Caldari cruisers doesn't have 5 light drones. Also caldari have troubles with fitting range control devices, due to shield tanking. They just don't have enough middle slots for range control and tank. Just look at the Caldari turret ships like Rokh or Moa - very slow, few drones, no slots for range control ,complete crap. Even the worst looser team never bring one single Rokh or Moa to Alliance tournement. Rokh and moa need serious boost in speed and drones.
With the addition of the ASB you can get a very beefy shield tank with a set of utility mids, no different than a shield speed machariel which has even less mid slots yet still pulls it off. Also some caldari ships can go very fast, the crow is i believe the fastest interceptor and the moa can really ramp up the speed when actually fit right.
Is it bad if your friend says "that was a Metaphor" and you say "Meta 4? Get Tech II or faction" ?I love the sound of silent explosions in Space.-á |
Christopher Mabata
Dominion Tenebrarum Reverberation Project
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Posted - 2014.08.18 16:10:00 -
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Bastion Arzi wrote:nothing stopping people from flying gallente ships is there?
if u were on about the ishtar i would listen but saying that gallente is overall better than every other race makes me switch off sorry.
my vargur took on a nueting armageddon and a neuting domi. along with some other **** i wasnt really paying attention to. If i was in a kronos i would have been dead.
enyo vs vengaeance? depends on stuff but if the vengeanec stays 5km + away the enyo is dead. (unless rail enyo?)
i dont know man sure gallente ships are strong but theres no one race beats all in this game. evrything is situational and fit dependant.
Calling unfair on the vargur because vargurs wtfpwn other marauders. But either way this is what most of us have been trying to say for the last 2 pages. Is it bad if your friend says "that was a Metaphor" and you say "Meta 4? Get Tech II or faction" ?I love the sound of silent explosions in Space.-á |
Christopher Mabata
Dominion Tenebrarum Reverberation Project
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Posted - 2014.08.18 17:45:00 -
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Chris Winter wrote:Christopher Mabata wrote:David Koen wrote:Zhilia Mann wrote:David Koen wrote:Vexor has 3800 base hp, One ogre 2 has 1775 HP, 5 ogres 8880 HP, you need to do awesome amount of damage to kill all drones, so it is not a solution to kill all drones. Changing Vexor bandwith to 50mb and drone bay to 75 is the solution. Base HP? Why are we even talking about that? Throw in resists and maybe you'd have an argument -- except that then the drones would appear ludicrously soft compared to the ship fielding them and the point would be moot. Ishtar can carry 15 havy drones with total of 26675 HP which is much more than total Ishar hp, yes drones have resists too. My Ishtar gets over 67,000EHP SHIELD Fit, so please go back and do your research He's talking raw HP, not EHP.
Its pointless to quote raw EHP because even drones have resists tbch.
Plus its kind of like arguing "its unfair that you have a meat shield an i dont" when you bring up the 5 ogre's have more "Raw" EHP than a vexor. Like the other one in the quote said, once you count those resists the entire point is moot. Is it bad if your friend says "that was a Metaphor" and you say "Meta 4? Get Tech II or faction" ?I love the sound of silent explosions in Space.-á |
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